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July 27, 2005

Battle of the Agrarian Planet (B5 Call to Arms campaign, Turn 2)

We had two battles last night, a centauri attack to capture a settled planet, followed by a turn 2 Centauri attack across an astroid belt.

The battle over the settled planet is a "Space Superiority" scenario. This means that you get points not just killing the enemy, but for being the only side present in one of six sectors of the board. The randomly generated scenario size is "Patrol" (i.e. small, too small for most Minbari ships), so what we have is two Minbari ships taking on three Centaurii Vorchans.

Here's the Centaurii fleet out of the starting gate.

Here's the Minbaris.

The Minbari overpowers the Centauris in terms of long range weapon, plus the Vorchans only have frontal weapons whereas the Minbarii ships can both fire all around.

The plan is for Jeff's Vershantan to speed through to the rear arc of the Vorchans, and for my Tinashi to sandwich the target and pound it to a pulp. Of course my Tinashi got targeted by two Vorchans, which if you play the odds I should be able to survive. See below for the situation at that point...

Of couse my luck being what they are, they rolled a critical hit, then rolled a 66, so my ship promptly blew up. (At this time there are muttering about how the crit table being too deadly. I am normally for decisive results so I don't mind the roll 66 on 2D6 for a kill result, but for a campaign this does throw a monkey wrench into the works, as Minbaris are short on ship to begin with).

My think now is that given a deadly crit hit table, it's much more efficient to have more crappy ships than a few good ship. In out limited experience most ship die from crit hits, and not from steady accumulation of damage...

Since this one was over so soon, we decided to proceed to the next campaign turn. This time the randomly generated scenario is a "Annihilation" scenario, where there are no time limit, and last side standing wins the fight. The scenario size is still "patrol", so we ended up with 1 Minbari ship vs 2x Vorchans. This scenario also introduced some terrain instead if the usual blank space. We came up with some high density astorid field right in the middle of the board (if you fly through them, roll a crew quality check, if you fail, take number of hits equal to distance travelled this turn as triple damage(!) attack).

The Centauris are out gunned, so they decided to open a jump point and bail at the first oppertunity. Victory is ours! (After our string of defeat, some good news would be needed back home)...

Posted by msoong at July 27, 2005 10:16 AM

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Yes I agree. For now let's just stick with the rules (it's probably self correcting anyway since new purchases on both side will likely be small ships anyway).

Posted by: msoongAtWork at July 29, 2005 01:20 PM

My feeling is that you want to see maybe one war scenarios in a campaign, and I think you could play a fun game without ever seeing one. They're going to be huge. 5 purchase points at war level is going to result in, like, 15 ships per side on the table (many of them quite large) and a billion dice. I really don't think I'd want to play more than one or two of these; for me ACTA seems to have a sweet spot at Skirmish or Raid with a handful of ships each side - these are the scenarios I've enjoyed the most.

You could take a cue from the ASL campaign games: each player has one or two "major offensive" chits which will preempt the table and result in a Battle (say, 2/3) or War (the other 1/3) game with an appropriate scenario; then take those high-level results off the table.

Another very nice older game that might prove a useful mine of ideas is GDW's Imperium. That was interesting because the two sides had totally different schemes for building and replacing their fleet.

But I'm not sure any change to the rules is actually required; I think the game will develop its own pace and tension without forcing big battles - which are, after all, just large. The rosters just need to be the right size, so ships in each class are getting chewed up faster than they can be replaced in general, so pressures on available resources grow.

Posted by: Chris Farrell at July 29, 2005 11:02 AM

I've come up with a simpe scheme to gradually increase the size of the action as time goes on:
the scenario size dieroll now has a DRM that's equal to the current turn number / 2 (rounded down). So by turn 2 and 3, you add 1 to the die roll, on turn 8 you add 4, etc. This should see a gradual escalation which IMO is a desired effect in a game.

Posted by: msoongAtWork at July 29, 2005 09:12 AM

Actually, I think most ships do die from damage. It's just the crits are more spectacular :)

There are certainly a lot of crits in the game though, especially if anyone has a precise weapon. The odd thing is that the heavy firepower (things like Double or Triple damage weapons) actually inflict fewer crits for the same amount of damage done. Which is odd.

I could definitely live with fewer crits overall, and a little more scaling so that you have to be firing a pretty big weapon to get the devestating crits.

For those comtemplating the B5 Campaign Game, one thing Milton didn't mention is that we've sort of discovered that the scenario generation table is heavily skewed towards smaller actions (the lowest two of the 5 categories, Patrol & Skirmish are almost two-thirds of the games, with the top category - War - showing up only one time in 36). This is good, I think, because I've enjoyed the small-to-medium sized actions much more than the big slug-fests, but our rosters are a bit top-heavy with big ships and a bit thin at the bottom (neither of us have any patrol-level ships, leading to some funkiness in purchasing since that means in many Patrol scenarios one side or the other can't fill out their roster).

Posted by: Chris Farrell at July 28, 2005 03:17 PM

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